Penrith are in "uncharted waters" according to Ivan Cleary after his side slipped to their fourth loss in a row in Round 5.

To the point the least attractive elements of rugby league are rightly being celebrated - at least when Canterbury attacks ...

Canterbury star Viliame Kikau has declared it's only a matter of time before a Kaiviti Silktails player makes his NRL debut for the Bulldogs.

The governing body has already gagged coaches. Now it wants to know what the likes of Phil Gould, Paul Gallen and Gorden Tallis are going to say on TV.

All the tries from a thrilling Round Five clash between Penrith Panthers and North Sydney Bears.