Prince William is giving royal fans hints of what 2025 is going to look like for him and Kate Middleton after a very challenging year. The Prince and Princess of Wales are looking to reshape their roles and refine what their future reign will look like.

However, lip reader Kayleigh Harris also analyzed the moment for The Sun and claimed Kate responded to Sophie’s question by saying Prince William’s beard is “never quite rounded” (as opposed to “I find it quite rousing”). Harris also claimed that Sophie called it “a nice beard” and noted that “it’s a lot better now.”

Here's what a couple of lip readers believe Kate and Sophie were talking about during the Remembrance Day Service.